Obamascam

Yes, Stan, you must vote! The choice is more simple than you think. On the one hand you have a candidate and a Party that wants to accelerate "change" to the left while trading national security for more welfare. On the other hand there is a candidate and a Party that wants to improve our capitalist system and to protect our nation from radical Islam. Neither candidate/Party is perfect, but the choice is clear.

Jon,
If my driving bothers you that much....

stay home!

Since change seems to be the theme this political forever, I would like to suggest a change that would win my vote.

Instead of hammering out a new batch of laws every six months, the law makers be required to hammer a bunch of old bad laws out of existence.

Most of us have been in a law office. What do you see? The walls are lined with books full of laws.
We are told, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
There are so many that no one person can keep up with it all. This is good for lawyers, but not for us.
If we reversed the flow we could clear the books. And the American Sheeple would no longer be ignorant.
All the politicians will still have jobs. They will just be giving back freedoms instead of taking them.

I have read that freedom is the right to do anything you want except infringe on the rights of another. One persons rights end where another's begins.
Any law of man is an infringement on that right.

Is this not the land of the free?

I agree with 80% of Americans.

OBAMA ROCKS!!!!!!!1

TIME FOR CHANGE!!!!!!!!

Woods311... excellent point on all levels from local to federal. Too much to keep up with when things change EVERY YEAR.

Maybe the geezer (post #2) can explain why bureaucracies and the numbers of laws increase no matter who's in power, and it seems even worse under those who claim to like the least government.

There was a movie... Turk 182... and in it they ask some guy (looked like an old construction worker) who he's voting for. His response was "I never vote... it only encourages the swine."

Sure would make a good bumper sticker.

I see John McBush is praising Jesse Helms. I guess bigotry loves bigotry. I say good riddance to Jesse. One more right wing bigot gone.

Donavin, unfortunately we can readily see Bush's accomplishments in the state of affairs this country is in. We need to move left. The problems you brought up were caused because we have not been far enough left. Get use to it. If we are to survive, we have to move left.

donavan,

and how is that george bush guy working out for you?
we certainly don't need more of the same!!

UP OBAMA!

I was just watching the new Cigna Insurance commercial on TV and almost spilled my coffee.

A young lady is exercising while her voice over states "we can't fix health care overnight, so I'm doing my part. I'm taking yoga."

Yes, that's the insurance industries contribution to the health care crisis.

Ya'll take yoga.

While they cover as few healthy people as possible at high rates while maximizing profits.

TIME FOR CHANGE.

Well, I'll be danged! Looks like the Dems have reeled in another flipping/flopper! A Kerry with color! Doesn't know which change he is for until he knows that he's knot sure! All tied up!

At least he got rid of Hilbillery! We hope, but then again: he's probably not sure?

Stan & Bruce;
I agree with both.
Trying to figure out who to vote for pres. is like trying to find the skinniest one at the fat girl dance.
I have been republican for most of my life, but the current administration is a total disgrace. What they have done to our country in the last 8 years is no less then treason. Not that the Dems are any better.
We keep sending young men to Iraq to die, for what reason I can no longer figure out. There were no WMD's, Saddam is long gone, they have a government, and if it really is about oil, that doesn't seem to be working out.
Our economy is in shambles, unemployment is rampant, and look who our choices are. A former POW that has made a career out of it and inexperienced career politician with big ideas but no idea how to implement them.
I think I'm going to vote for none of the above.
;-)

Good letter, Jon Busch, although a sad one. Luckily, there are more of us that care about living creatures than those who don't. I believe that what goes around, comes around and that karma is a b***h.

I recently witnessed a line of people stopping on busy Davis Blvd. to let a duck cross with her ducklings. There were construction workers and tough-looking guys in trucks who had no problem stopping. It took 15 seconds, max, and everyone enjoyed the sight of the little ones making it across safely. I think if anyone had dared to run them over, they would have had a few really angry, really big guys take off after them.

kennedy and colorado: Two people here today have called for change from George Bush.

He is out no matter what.

Stop linking Bush to Obama's change.

Obama is a huge tax-and-spend liberal.

McCain is a centrist. That's as far a shift to the left that we need.

Can any of you Obama supporters name something he has accomplished?

Can you tell me how a "community organizer" qualifies him for president?

Obama is a joke, but unfortunately he's a joke on us.

chickendawg

"a Kerry with color?"

Why don't ya just come out and use n word?

I'm tired of your remarks and usually refrain from getting personal, but you, my friend, are a racist P.O.S.

GoneFishin,

Most great presidents have been "community organizers" that have persuaded the American people to put aside their differences in pursuit of a higher goal. They just happened to "organize" on a national scale.

Or we could elect a guy whose greatest accomplishment was surviving as a POW. Heroic yes, but what sitting in a cell does to develop leadership skills I'm not quite sure of. You don't even get to make a decision about going to the bathroom.

I do know this. The last 7 years of neocon leadership has destroyed our economy, lessened our security, and blown our international standing. The only thing we could do to make matters worse is continue down the same path.

TIME FOR CHANGE!!!!!!!!

GoneFishin: We don't need a "centrist" as you call McBush. A centrist is sort of like a compromise-which is a situation where nobody is satisfied or happy with the outcome. McBush lost any character he might have had in the Hanoi Hilton. He proved that by kissing up to Bush after the 2000 campaign. He's not a hero either and his Navy career was made possible only by his father and grandfather's record. He's never had a job outside the government-and that says a lot. No, we need to move quite a bit left if we are to rescue what is left of this country after the republican debacle. Western European countries are doing quite well regardless of what right wingers say. I know, I am there a lot. This country is in the shape it's in now as a result of being centrist (nothing getting done) and right of center which has been the undoing of this country.

#8 Colorado. Your comment is the most important one posted so far this morning. While I totally disagree, movement further to the left vs. fixing the flaws in our capitalist society while protecting our nation are the two choices with which we are faced. So, gentlemen, pick your direction of change and stop beefing about how we got here.

I am troubled by some of Obama's recent triangulation attempts, like the "Faith Based Initiative".

I keep reminding myself no one will be perfect and they all have to operate in the system we've let evolve. Furthermore, the President is, above all, a leader, a motivational near caricature entity. Unfortunately the last one has been allowed to acquire more power than we'd want for a cheerleader.

We are hungry for a leader with communication skills in this age of enhanced communication.

Obama is that. His heart is in the right place and congress needs to be our focus. It is not too far back to remember the conflict between a Democrat dominated congress and a Democrat president. I think the issue at that time(Clinton first term) was a failure to compromise.

This is thematic of Obama.

I think we all agree we have had some serious gridlock of late.

I am hopeful we can start taking some steps forward in the face of what appears to be coming. I am not Pollyannish though.

bbgeezer: We will fail if we don't learn from the past and how we got here is elemental to how we dig out of this hole. Nothing will change if we don't totally prohibit lobbying and have real campaign reform. I have mixed feelings about term limits. It's sort of like lawyers, they are all scum until you need one. If you have a good honest politician (is that possible?), why force him out. Our system is broken, that we know, but how to fix it is another story. You see, the people we elect become part of the system and they have made it far to difficult to remove them.

Colorado, we certainly don't need a far-left moonbat in centrist clothing, which is what Obama has become.

And I see your understanding of the world is similar to boss' understanding of economics.

#21 Colorado. Hey, don't knock ALL the lobbyists! I love the ones who represent the businesses that furnish me with all the things that make life worth living.

I agree we need campaign reform. I favor unlimited contributions so long as they are transparent and posted within 24 hours on the internet. I support, also, term limits, the line-item veto and the elimination of earmarks.

Our system is cracked, not broken. I want a repairman, not a con-artist selling "change" to the left.

Barack HUSSEIN OBAMA.... so far to the left he can't even walk straight!

Gonefishin:

Here's one. Obama has managed to generate interest in a whole new group of voters beyond the typical hardcore party loyalists that we see year after year.

Indy:
Stupid retort as usual. Too bad you werent the one trying to cross the street. You are probably one of those anal holes that intentionally run over living animals.

Whats a moonbat?

moonbat is the opposite of wingnut

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonbat

Well, I hear all the ranting of how far left Obama is so, what is he proposing that is so far left? I really haven't heard anything even close to far left.

Oh, he does stress personal responibility, he does stress strong families and fathers in the home, he does promote education as extremely important, not just to the individual but to our country because we live in a competitive world. He will encourage college by offering scholarships that people can earn through work. It is no handout, but a means for them to go to college.

I'd say he's real practical about saying we should get out of Iraq and will make an effort to do that completely within, I believe, 16 months of his tenure.

That would save us a heap of money which can be used to reduce our debt and help us develop alternative energy.

If there is not private industry that will develop the energy we need, then government will have to put forth some plans and subsidize the individuals who will carry it out. Energy is a priority to our future existence.

I guess you shameless Right Wingers think if you say a lie long enough about Barack, people will believe it. After all, isn't that what Bush did with Iraq to lead us to war?

And if we're doing some comparing about McCain and Obama, it's not even close. McCain is a minus whereas Obama has lots of plusses to offer.

I haven't really heard from you neo cons adulators what McCain proposes that differs from the abominably failed Bush policies.

Lastly, if I had nothing to hope for from either candidate, I would vote against McCain because he and Bush believe in the same terrible policies that have put us in this frightening condition, and I will never reward that kind of leadership with my vote.

#30 Truth. I tend not to put much faith in what politicians say when running for office. Relative to Obama, here's what will be controlling my vote in November:

- His education was achieved at left-liberal schools (Sorry, you Harvard guys!).

- His work experience was left-liberal.

- His wife is a leftist racist.

- His associates are either far-left socialists or left liberal.

- His former church preaches victimhood.

- His Illinois Statehouse politics were left liberal.

- Those who pulled him out of nowhere and put him on the national stage are far-left liberal or left liberal.

- His voting performance in the US Senate has been all left liberal.

You judge a candidate by his education, his work, those he associates with and his voting record. If you want the nation to go left, vote for Obama. Enough said."

Truthmatters, that is cutting to the chase. Great points, all.

Not only can America not take anymore of the Bush policies, the world can't.

Obama will get open arms from the rest of world whereas McCain will get no more than tacit acceptance of the status quo.

Everyone but the extreme Right knows we have to get serious with an Eco-economy.

I think if the rest of the world thought they could pull it off they'd do to us what happened to Mr Watson, if we want to continue our present path.

#32 Cyclsailor. For the sake of discussion, how about naming ONE specific Bush policy to which you object and giving us your opinion of what specific policy Obama would propose for replacement.

Stan C.: I tend to agree with you. This election is very frustrating. Every election we have the same frustrations. Politics stinks.

We never get what we really want. I try to vote for the person who will do the least harm and will do the most for the people and the country. I will vote for Obama because he is the better of the two. I'd like to vote for someone else as president, but he is the best under the circumstances.

Obama is the most progressive of the two. McCain is too old and his agenda is too conservative.

bbgeezer and GoneFishin have Lefto Phobia. So now if one goes to Harvard, they're a left winger. My gosh, you guys are so Right Wing that now you think you can't vote for anyone who went to Harvard.

At any rate, he graduated magno cum laude from Harvard. I guess intelligence scares you too. Trying to talk some rationality into your heads is a hopeless venture because you're stuck. A person is Left in your mind, no matter what they do, and they're done.

It's no wonder we won't deal with a quite a few of the world's leaders. Some have chosen a Communist economic system, and that makes you go bananas. You know, people can democratically choose they like Communism as an economic system. So, what's it to you anyway?

I really don't know why any of us waste our time on you. You're so biased you're beyond hope.

The one big hope I have is that there are not too many of you, so we can procede with some kind of mind instead of your emotional fear twattle.

You live in a box. Do you ever venture outside of that box?

bbgeezer, you ask one of Bush's policies one would ask Obama to replace. My God, how much time do you think Cyclsailor has? How about a war we were lied into at horrendous cost to us and the Iraqis? Then you could mention all the rest of his policies, favoring his oil buddies, doing nothing about our energy needs, being a total flop on Illegal Immigration, promoting a Canada, Mexico and US Union. No wonder our borders are in the way, and driving up our debt into the stratosphere.

Obama would relook at NAFTA to make sure it's fair to us. Obama would give tax cuts to those making under $250,000 a year. Obama would have a foreign policy that doesn't make us turn up our noses and boss people around, but a policy in which we talk to people.

Just look at whatever Bush has done and figure Obama will do the opposite, because all of Bush's policies are abject failures.

BBGeezer,

Although Obama studied at Harvard Law School it
is far from a lefty law school. And Ombama's
was mostly influenced by my old friend Archibald
Cox, the best constitutional lawyer in the USA.

Even the Neo-Con make a positive rant for Archie!!

#35 Truth. Sure, I'm biased, but who isn't? I'm biased politically, about what I eat, who I like, what pair of shoes I prefer. Surely, I'm not that different from you...except politically. But that's America! I stand with my offer to Cyclsailor: put ONE Bush policy on the table and describe the changed policy that Obama would propose as an alternative. Both you and Cyclsailor are acting like politicians...a lot of words and nothing specific to chew on.

truth, Obama's foreign policies will devastate this country by removing most of our defense systems, cutting budgets for a multitude of research programs for defense issues, leaving us wide open for a full out attack by radicals.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/0...

Why on earth would we want to reduce our National Missle Defense Program? If anything, we should be increasing this and many additional programs to protect our homeland.

Obama is way too "green" to run this country. He needs to be potty trained before taking control of our country.

Truthymatters...............if you think Obama is going to renegotiate NAFTA you are dreaming...despite what many Americans have said NAFTA has been very beneficial to the US and to Mexico and Canada as per the following US report:

"Office of the United States Trade Representative www.ustr.gov
NAFTA Policy Brief –October 2007
NAFTA Benefits
How has NAFTA benefited the United States?
Trade and Investment Flows Have Substantially Increased
• From 1993 to 2006, trade among the NAFTA nations climbed 198 percent, from $297 billion to
$883 billion.
• U.S. merchandise exports to our NAFTA partners grew more rapidly – at 157 percent – than our
exports to the rest of the world, at 108 percent.
• As of 2006, each day the NAFTA countries conducted nearly $2.4 billion in trilateral trade.
• Canada and Mexico are our first and second largest export markets; last year, U.S. exports to our
NAFTA partners alone accounted for 35 percent of total U.S. exports.
• For agriculture, Canada and Mexico alone account for 50 percent of the increase in U.S.
agricultural exports to the world since 1993.
• NAFTA has been good for Mexican agriculture. Trade growth has been remarkably balanced,
with U.S. agricultural exports to Mexico increasing by $7.3 billion and U.S. agricultural imports
from Mexico increasing by $6.7 billion during the last 13 years.
Result: U.S. Economic Growth during the 14 years of NAFTA Has Been Strong
• Jobs. U.S. employment rose from 112.2 million in December 1993 to 137.2 million in December
2006, an increase of 25 million jobs, or 22 percent. The average unemployment rate was 5.1
percent in the period 1994-2006, compared to 7.1 percent during the period 1981-1993.
• Manufacturing. U.S. manufacturing output rose by 63 percent between 1993 and 2006,
exceeding the 37 percent increase achieved between 1980 and 1993.
• Compensation. Growth in real compensation for manufacturing workers improved dramatically.
Average real compensation grew at an average annual rate of 1.6 percent from 1993 to 2006,
compared to just 0.9 percent annually between 1980 and 1993.
• Investment. Productive investment, central to rising living standards, has increased. Even
excluding housing, U.S. non-residential fixed, or business, investment has risen by 107 percent
since 1993, compared to a 45 percent increase between 1980 and 1993."

see the following post

cont'd
and this does not even include the oil and gas agreement which is favoured heavily in the US's favour....most Canadians would love this to be reopened
also the softwood lumber ongoing controvery where all your courts and the world court has ruled that the US is not living up to the NAFTA agreement but this administration refused to recognize this at the petion of the protectionist western governors

so while Canada and Mexico would welcome re-opening the agreement Obama's aids have already informed Canadian officials it was just "campaign rhetoric" and McCain on his visit last month told officials he will not request re-opening

Obama's recent remarks concerning Iraq have to be especially troubling to those on the left. While he insists the press has overblown what he had to say, one has to wonder, regardless of party affiliation, if we really need a president that speaks on both sides of their mouth.

Obama "change" seems to be evaporating right before our eyes.

#33-"#32 Cyclsailor. For the sake of discussion, how about naming ONE specific Bush policy to which you object and giving us your opinion of what specific policy Obama would propose for replacement."

I opposed Bush going into Iraq, when OB was in Afghanistan, widening the war front. He had is minions shop intel to create an opportunity to grab oil turf, not only in Iraq but stand security for the pipe line from Azerbaijan to Turkey.

I think and so does Obama we ought to have been working on independence for OIL, not just from the middle east.

I was opposed to the tax cut, albeit with a Sunset clause that was so weighted for the wealthy. I don't think you can doubt Obama's opposition to that as well. Actually I could list most of the policies of the administration and my objection as well as Obama's.

#42 Cyclsailor. How can we have a discussion of Bush-Obama policy differences when you put two non-issues on the table; ie, something Bush did more than five years ago? We aren't talking history.

OK, let's agree that Bush hasn't pushed hard enough on drilling and nuclear, but he's certainly for both. Now you can describe Obama's policy (Don't talk to me about ethanol, solar and wind...they do not an energy policy make.)

On tax policy, if you are going to be responsive you'll describe Bush's current policy and compare it directly with Obama's.

By the way, I didn't ask that policies be "listed"; I asked that they be described (briefly, of course).

All these many words reflect exactly why I suggested that ONE current Bush policy be put on the table for comparison with what Obama wants to do. Obfuscation gets us nowhere.

Again today, the consensus among posters is "OBAMA DOES INDEED ROCK!!!!!!!!"

TIME FOR CHANGE!!!!!!!!

truth, now I just have to laugh at you. You can't see the truth that Obama is a far-left moonbat because you are so far left you couldn't even see the middle. How is Obama a leftist? How is he not. Do you have a Che T-shirt? Unbelievable how you think (don't think).

Gonefishin, I am a conservative who hasn't turned on Conservatism like so many of you. I said my first choice was Ron Paul, a true conservative. But he's been thrown overboard by the imperialist expansionists.

Yesterday when I referred to our history of being not being expansionists, you said I didn't know my history. That was perhaps my own fault for not clarifying what I meant. I was talking about our principles, not our actions. We have broken our principles over and over again.

You may have heard that Democracy building throughout the world is a liberal idea. And, if that's the case, that it was first promoted during Wilson, then I guess you are a liberal. Since I believe as conservatives have believed, that's not something we're into. Remember when Conservatives were ridiculed as Isolationists. We so believed in tending to our own business that we were accused of not wanting to deal with the rest of the world. That, of course, wasn't true. We just didn't want to get involved in their sovereign affairs.

You don't seem to realize that Neo Cons are not conservative. They merely mouth a few conservative ideas (some of conservative's ideas, not Libertarians)like those concerning abortion and gay marriage etc.

Just because we are mired in military bases all over the world does not mean it's right or helpful to us. I imagine some of those countries, however, like to see us spend our money there. Well, I say, we could be spending that money here. Those bases have no purpose anymore for our safety.

You are far too big a liberal spender for my taste. Bush has broken our bank. That's not conservative. I can't envision Obama even coming close to that kind of spending because he will get us out of Iraq.

By the Way, our not being attacked in seven years has nothing to do with our being in Iraq. We weren't attacked for 8 years after the first trade center hit during Clinton, and we weren't mired in Iraq, didn't have Home Land Security or the Patriot Act. All that is a bunch of hog wash thrown out with hopes someone will bite. I can see quite a few of you have bitten too. BIG MISTAKE.

OBAMA IS THE MAN. OBAMA ROCKS. OBAMA WILL WIN.

#36 Dooley. Any school east of the Susquehanna it too liberal for me! When you've crossed the Massachusetts border, you've really had it. The damage comes from the community and your associates, not the book learning. Just the wrong foot to get started on in politics!

Oh! BB brain! I feel sorry for you!

Just can't win with this one! No service record!
No record of accomplishment! What will Oblama change?

He rocks just like a frog with no legs; he will sink like a stone!

But thanks for getting rid of Hilbillary; we think!

When he shows up wearing a pants suit we will know that the jig is up and he has changed his mind again!

Good luck! He has my boat!