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NAPLES Amid simmering tensions with Collier County leaders, the Pelican Bay Foundation voted Friday to get more public input before deciding whether to back conceptual plans for more beach access at Clam Pass Park.
County park planners drew a barrage of questions about parking and the environment when they unveiled the plans for the North Naples park at a Foundation workshop Thursday.
The $2 million plan includes a new leg of the boardwalk that runs through the mangroves to the beach from the Clam Pass Park parking lot at the end of Seagate Drive, beach shelters and restrooms south of the existing park, an observation deck overlooking Clam Bay, kayak and canoe storage racks and a landing spot and dune walkover to the park from Clam Bay.
The Foundation, the Pelican Bay community’s master association, has veto authority over the Clam Pass Park plans by way of a 1982 deed that turned over a Clam Bay conservation area to county government.
Foundation board members heaped criticism Friday on the county’s handling of Clam Bay issues overall.
Clam Bay has been at the center of a power struggle between Pelican Bay and county leaders over renewal of a permit for a mangrove restoration project, the findings of a county report on Clam Bay water quality, a county push to install navigation markers and the minority seats Pelican Bay holds on a new Clam Bay advisory committee.
Foundation Chairman Bob Naegele called for a “fact-gathering town hall meeting” on Clam Bay.
He said the county’s “disdain for us is troubling,” pointing to a lack of a reply to the Foundation’s request for county commissioners to delay a vote earlier this month to create the new Clam Bay advisory committee.
Foundation board member Henry Price took issue with the commissioners’ failure to appoint Pelican Bay’s top pick, Mangrove Action Group leader Tom Cravens, to fill an open seat on the semi-autonomous board that oversees the county’s Pelican Bay Services Division.
Naegele said the county’s action “almost seems to be an attempted neutering” of the Pelican Bay Services Division board.
Clam Bay is only the latest in a litany of slights against Pelican Bay by county leaders, from plans for a pier at Vanderbilt Beach to staffing levels at the Pelican Bay branch library, Foundation board member Bob Uek said.
Foundation board member Mike Coyne chastised board members for using the Foundation meeting to pursue a pro-cityhood agenda by bashing county government.
“I think insulting them, insulting their motives, is not the best way to develop a harmonious relationship with the county,” Coyne said.
The Foundation set a less-confrontational course Friday on the Clam Pass park plans.
Under a time line presented by Foundation President Jim Hoppensteadt, the Foundation would submit a list of questions about the park plans to the county in November and then vote in December on whether to back the plans.
Park planners have asked for conceptual approval of the plan before moving to more detailed design and construction phases, which also must pass muster with the Foundation before the county can proceed.
Foundation Secretary Steve Feldhaus warned against “sending the wrong message” to the county by not expressing support for the general idea of increasing beach access at Clam Pass Park.
But Foundation board members rejected any correspondence to the county that indicated which way the board was leaning.
“A partial endorsement of anything is premature,” Foundation board member Bill Carpenter said.
The board appointed Carpenter, chairman of the board’s legal committee, to lead an effort to compile questions to present to county leaders.
Hoppensteadt said the Foundation would post a video of Thursday’s county presentation to both the public and members-only sections of the Foundation’s Web site, www.pelicanbay.org.
That could happen in the next two weeks, communication manager Gwen Raiswala said.
A December vote on the Clam Pass Park plans is “fine” with the county, Coastal Zone Management Director Gary McAlpin said Friday.
“We’ve got to work with the Foundation and we’re willing to do that,” McAlpin said.







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I applaud the board's decision. The county continues to pressure we who have invested tremendously in the Pelican Bay community. Demand for access by undesirables who what to canoe in our bays, then beg rights to stroll our boardwalks while likely disrespecting the nature reserve with urine and beer cans is more than I can stand. With God's grace Commissioner Halas will convince some folks that we are serious.
#1 Posted by micirisi on September 26, 2008 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Halas is a joke! He neds to be disposed of, regardless of this issue!
#2 Posted by schlogz on September 26, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
micirisi, if you think you own the bay, then you need to go move in with the residents of Hideaway Beach as they've lost most of the beach over the years, and are relying on tourist taxes to maintain what's left of it.
But if the tourists don't stay here, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CANOE AND USE THE FREAKIN BEACH, then PB buttheads will be kinda ticked when your waterway dries up and chokes out the mangroves WHICH ARE half dead anyway over the past ten years. There's aeriel photos to prove this cycle of pollution is reaking havoc on these natural barrier islands. They can ONLY DREDGE SO MUCH, til it has to STOP and nature takes OVER.
So to say "undesireables" are the total reason for this environmental destruction is also ignorant, as your very private boardwalks leading out to your very private PB beach are leaching creosote into the water with pressure treated pilings.
PBer's may be whining, but this time, the winners will finally be the visitors to Clam Pass Park, which needs to have better access for canoes, and kayaks....THE SPACE IN BETWEEN THE CRUMMY FENCE IS TOO SMALL to fit a small vessel through without knocking it or the boater over.
They better improve this boardwalk and improve the launch site, too. The corroding wood in the water sat there forever from the one dock, which was rotting and old.
Then there's the life-or-death situation for a person who chooses to WALK the boardwalk rather than taking a tram. So a family is supposed to walk to the side as the passing tram, and hope that kids don't run out and get hit? By a guy driving, who MAY OR MAY NOT SEE THE KID as he drives to the end of the boardwalk?
They have to revisit this entire project. micirisi is it so important to protect nature, or protect your so-called privacy in your fishbowl condo in the sky of PB?
Hideaway Beacher's have a new bathroom for all the undesireables to use so they could get some sand....what will PB's highrisee's give up for this slice of Clam Pass?
Hmmm...lemme think...thinkin...can U smell the brain's engine here?:-)Beetle can!
how's bout....a big parking lot for beachgoers?
Or free use of PB's parks and facilities?
Or free use of PB's private tennis courts?
How's bout lunch on PBer's in the dining room for taxpayers here?
It would be a great taxpayer party!
Keep building fences, large walls, barriers, locks, chains, and see where this will getchya.
Nowhere...... with Clam Pass.
Halas isn't the problem here....he's trying to hear both sides, but it seems to be ONE SIDE is HEARD, and PUBLIC CITIZENS are not allowed to voice opinions on this matter about PUBLIC BEACH ACCESS!
MORE BATHROOMS FOR UNDESIREABLES ARE ON THE WAY!
#3 Posted by beetlejuice on September 26, 2008 at 10:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Current access at Seagate and Clam Pass is underused. I've never had a problem parking my car and going straight to the beach, even on weekends.
Is this a real "crisis" or just something manufactured to spend tourist tax dollars on another construction project that will forever need regular, expensive maintenance?
Why not use that money and buy another access point?
#4 Posted by Bramble on September 27, 2008 at 4:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh brother! Get real!!! If there really was a desire to give the public a better beach experience and SPREAD people down the beach--WHY ISN'T COUNTY PARKS & REC expanding and improving bathrooms at ALL the beaches? Anybody that has ever had to use any of those bathrooms has to admit what disgusting and shameful condition they are in. The Collier County Parks & Rec does not allocate any funding for keeping the EXISTING facilities in good shape. Any self-respecting taxpayer should join in shaming the County for the poor condition of the EXISTING bathrooms. SPEND THE MONEY WHERE IT IS NEEDED---CLEAN UP AND EXPAND THE EXISTING BATHROOMS SO WHEN YOUR RESIDENTS BRING THEIR GUESTS AND OUT OF TOWN VISITORS TO THE BEACH, WE DON'T HAVE TO CRINGE AT THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE FOR OUR BEACH FACILITIES. WE SHOULD ALL INSIST THE COUNTY USE TDC FUNDS TO IMPROVE THE ALREADY EXISTING FACILITIES. ONLY THEN SHOULD THERE BE ANY CONSIDERATION IN "SPREADING PEOPLE DOWN THE BEACH MORE" OK,...ONLY AFTER THAT IS DONE then put some public bathroom facilities at Seagate/Naples Cay and "down the beach more". Like doesn't it seem odd that even though there aren't any facilities "down the beach more" between Clam Pass Beach Park and Lowdermilk Park or between Lowdermilk Park & Naples Pier, the County Park & Rec dept is NOT proclaiming a need for providing more facilities there to "spread the public further down the beach?" Why target Clam Pass? Why target Pelican Bay? What about ALL THE OTHER AREAS OF BEACH that have no bathroom facilities at all!!? THIS IS SUCH A THINLY VEILED ATTEMPT TO SLIDE IN MORE BOATING & I DON'T MEAN KAYAKS EITHER. THE kayakers don't need want or ask for more bathrooms, more boardwalks, more intrusion into nature. HELLO, the whole point of kayaking is to respect and enjoy NATURE up close and personal without belching pollution and disturbing the peace and quiet of a true nature encounter. What's that you say? Oh you think me and others want to enjoy a nature encounter by cutting through a forest, installing our own version of a pathway (that will leach poisons).You think we want to enjoy the natural beach setting under some permanent manmade sun shelters that take up valuable near-dune turtle habitat? You think we want to increase the pressures of survival for the wildlife that live or forage in Clam Bay by removing more of their habitat? YOU ARE SO VERY VERY WRONG.
#5 Posted by keepingthemhonest on October 13, 2008 at 4:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
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